Wednesday, January 12, 2005

Safe and Sound Nannies

On the topic of customer service, we hired an agency to assist us in finding a nanny last year when we lost our son's first nanny. We obviously had some challenges and I won't claim that we don't own part of the problem. When we got to the start of the year, I shared with the company that we had hired that we had just had triplets, my wife had been hospitalized, my son had gotten very sick etc. I also said we want to sit down with them to discuss our needs. The principal of the company said she was glad to but wouldn't be in San Diego until the middle of February. When we had problems before and I had requested to meet with her, she had told me she couldn't as she was in Colorado at the time. When I realized that she was in Colorado for most of the first two months of the year I left her a message stating that we wanted a refund on a prorated portion of her fee and that we wanted to part ways. I got this response:

From: Ann Wycoff, Ph.D. [mailto:wycoff@safeandsoundnannies.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 6:01 PM
To: 'shapery@cox.net'
Subject: nanny conflict

Dear Derrick,
In response to your phone message of January 4, 2005 where you requested a pro-rated refund I would like to review the following events:
You signed a fee agreement with Safe and Sound Nannies on April 19, 2004. We began a search for a qualified nanny for your family at that time. We sent you Person A, an experienced nanny, on or about April 25, 2004 but because of your family's travel plans, you were unable to make a decision regarding her because your wife was out of town and was unable to meet her in a timely manner. In the meantime, Person A was hired by another family. We then sent you Person B information on May 7, 2004. Person B has been a nanny since l994. We placed her in her last nanny position and she worked for that family successfully for 3 years. You interviewed Person B and hired her. She started working for you in June, 2004. In late June I called you to check on her performance and collect our placement fee. At that time you said you were unsure about whether you wanted to keep her. I told you to take your time to be sure she is the right fit for your position before you pay our fee. I did not charge our fee at that time. I called you again approximately 2 weeks later and you still were unsure about whether you wanted to keep her. I told you at that time that it was probably best if you did not hire her and did not pay our fee, and we could stop there. We had other families who were interested in Person B. You said you would call me in a few days and make a decision. You called on July 12, 2004 and said you wanted to keep Person B as your nanny and pay our fee. We billed our placement fee to your credit card on July 12, 2004. You called me approximately 2 weeks later, on or about July 26, 2004, and said you were unhappy with Person B and needed a replacement nanny as soon as possible. Although Person B expressed complaints about working conditions to me, I supported your decision completely and promised you I would make you our top priority and find you a qualified replacement. You made it clear that you needed a replacement as soon as possible. You reiterated that this was a busy time for you and you needed a nanny very soon. It is rare for one of our nanny placements to not work out, and we take our replacement policy very seriously. We (Safe and Sound Nannies) immediately spent substantial funds advertising extensively and spent substantial time interviewing nannies for your position. Because our screening process is thorough, and because we only send qualified nannies to our clients, we usually interview at least 15 nannies by phone before we find 1 whom we are interested in pursuing further. Of those whom we pursue, usually 1 out of 5 pass the standardized, statistically validated personality screen, have excellent references (which we speak with personally), and give us an excellent in-person interview. In addition to meeting those qualifications, the right nanny for your position needed to be open to working 50 hours per week, have flexibility in her schedule, have the energy, willingness and ability to handle triplets and another child, (or be willing to work with another nanny) be willing to commute to Cardiff, and desire a long term commitment. Knowing that you were in a hurry, we put other families' needs aside so that you would not be inconvenienced, and we concentrated on finding qualified candidates for you as quickly as possible.
On August 4, 2004, we e-mailed information to you on Person C, including her application, references, and phone number. Person C had worked with children since l996, had a college degree, an excellent personality screen, excellent references, an excellent in-person interview, and was interested in your position. She also lived in Encinitas, which is close to your home. We find very few qualified nannies who live in Encinitas and we were excited to have found her. In addition to sending you the e-mail, I also called you to let you know about Person C. You agreed to call her but you did not.
On August 7, 2004, we e-mailed information to you on Person D. Person D had 10 years of experience, 22 child development college units, 4 excellent references, an excellent personality screen and an excellent interview. She was interested in your position. We had placed her in her last position of 2 years and the family gave her a beautiful reference. You did not call Person D either.
On August 10, 2004 I called you again and asked you if you were going to call our candidates. You expressed dismay that Person D was asking for $14/hr but that is the same hourly rate that you had offered and agreed to pay Person B. You said you were going to hire a family friend temporarily and would need a nanny sometime in November. You wanted to put the search "on hold". I mentioned that we had gone to extensive cost and effort to find you qualified replacements and you hadn't called either candidate, although you had told me you needed a replacement as soon as possible. You made no justification for failing to call the candidates. You sent me an e-mail the next day expressing your dismay that I had brought up the effort we had expended on your behalf. Although we had met our commitment to you as set forth in our agreement by sending you 2 qualified replacement candidates, I was willing to accomodate you over and above the parameters of our contract, and I told you we would search for a nanny to start in November. You did not call me in November. In December you sent me an e-mail asking me to call you after the New Year. I called you on Monday, January 3, 2005 as you had requested and you said you "may have decided" that you need a live-in nanny; you weren't sure what you wanted and would talk with your wife and call me on January 4, 2005. We don't place live-ins, and you and I discussed that in-depth during our first conversation in April, 2004. At that time you hired us to find you a live-out nanny. On January 4, 2005 you left a phone message saying "my wife and I can't work with you because you're not located in San Diego" and you wanted a pro-rated refund.
Safe and Sound Nannies operates a fully staffed office in San Diego. Although I spend a portion of my time in Colorado, my home is in Carlsbad and I participate fully in screening, checking references, and interviewing every nanny candidate who passes our initial criteria. I personally review every psychological screen on every candidate. I employ an experienced, trained, full-time assistant who is physically working in our San Diego office Monday through Friday from 8:00 A.M. to 6:00 P.M. and often on Saturdays. My assistant was trained personally by me and has participated in over 500 in-person intervierws with me in our San Diego office. She and I continue to interview candidates together in-person in our San Diego office. In the event that I cannot interview a nanny in-person, my assistant interviews her in-person in our office and I participate fully through a webcam and speaker phone. Every nanny is interviewed by both my assistant and me so that we have the perspective of 2 interviewers for each candidate. Every family who uses our service works directly with me.
Please refer to our fee agreement which states: "Safe and Sound Nannies agrees that should the service relationship between client and selected candidate be terminated before the 180th calendar day following the candidate's start date, Safe and Sound Nannies will present at least 2 additional qualified candidates, OR, at Safe and Sound Nannies' sole discretion, provide a pro-rated refund. This paragraph is not applicable if the service relationship is terminated because the position is eliminated..."
Safe and Sound Nannies provided "at least 2 additional qualified candidates" to you. Also, your position was eliminated when you hired a family friend. We accomodated you within the paramaters of our contract. We have hereby fulfilled our obligations to you and you are therefore not entitled to a pro-rated refund or any further actions on our part. Please direct any questions to my controller, Stephen Parker at (619) 987-4894, who will be happy to discuss the matter further. He will also be happy to provide you with his e-mail address upon request. I will not be involved in or respond to any further comunication on this matter either by phone or e-mail.
Regards,
Ann Wycoff


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Anonymous said...

I wish I had found more online reviews of Safe and Sound Nannies before I called them! They are terrible. A month before going back to work I called and Ann stated that she could help me find a nanny in 4-6 weeks. I asked her if she had a large pool of nannies who would work in Solana Beach and who would work part-time because based on our previous experience if the company doesn't get attract that pool of people we will not get much of a selection. Ann was very offended by this concern, stating that her company was completely different from all others because of its advanced screening process, and she even stated she wasn't sure we could work together if we had any doubts about her process. I said no, no, you need to understand we just didn't want to repeat the experience that we had last time...please don't be offended. I asked the next step, and she said go ahead and fax in your credit card info for a $100 deposit and we can begin the process.

Two weeks later I called to check in on the progress and she said she never received the fax. I was upset that she never called if that was in fact the case, and 2 weeks had passed but I sent the form again anyway. This time I saved the fax confirmation. Again she claimed the fax was never received and that I should mail it in and give the credit card over the phone. I did so though I started wondering what kind of an operation she is running. Then she asked me to fax the form over while her assistant was waiting by the fax and we were both on the phone. I did so, and guess what - the fax went right through, what do you know. My husband said, oh she probably didn't have paper in the fax machine or somthing stupid like that. Five minutes later I got a call from Ann stating that she was offended by the treatment of her assistant and she would not provide any nanny search services for us, 2 days before I am to go back to work, 3 weeks after I first called.

It is absolutely unbelievable to me that a company advertising nanny search services loses faxes, blames the customer, offers to provide service and deliberately waits until the last minute before refusing service. I hope other potential customers will find out this first. At least I did not spend any money there.

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Dear all - It seems Safe & Sound Nannies (Dr. Ann Wycoff, PhD) has a pattern here. I have been nothing but complimentary & flexible, yet made to feel like $14/hr is an insult to pay. The owner, Ann, sent us 3 (as she puts it) "great" candidates - most w/broken English and poor appearances, and 1 mo prior to needing to fill this (easy) position told us she can't find anyone to take our job at the $14/hr she said was the going rate (despite the 2009 INA - Intl Nanny Assoc + 3 other references refuting that rate as 'low'). One of her candidates asked for more money and less responsibility w/o even being offered the job - some screening! Ann was unaware of the INA survey and stated "salaries must be low in SD due to border illegals" yet she sent me 3 hispanic nannies that didn't want to cook or clean! (Some inventory) Finally, insulting your "clients" (for a high-cost agency like Safe & Sound) and leaving them high & dry 1mo prior to their hire date is NEVER acceptable professional behavior, and everyone I know is stunned and disappointed by her emails and candidates. Within 1 hr I paid $100 online at nannies4hire.com and called Loving Nannies, Inc in SD (760) 943-6866 http://www.lovingnannies.com and found (by myself) numerous qualified (experienced, college-degreed..) nanny candidates at UNDER $14/hr so "let the reader beware" - research is always valuable, and I've learned my lesson (the hard way) not to be bullied and insulted, but to do more of my own homework to find what we're looking for. I hope this information saves others the time we wasted with Safe & Sound Nannies. Check out Loving Nannies, Inc (Wendy's wonderful) Best of luck and may the Karma you put out in the universe always return to you. :)